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These FAQs were developed based on common themes emerging from enquiries and will be updated as the consultation progresses. A PDF version of these FAQs is also available.
The Proposal document does not provide adequate data on the future pupil rolls, the assessments of buildings, the financial implications or if the proposal is a saving. What is the data to support the statement that the reconfiguration will provide capacity and flexibility for the future?
There is only a difference in 50 for the school capacity, why all this upheaval for 50 spaces?
The school capacity of the Condorrat Primary School is 342 and the school capacity for Baird Memorial Primary is 291. Condorrat Primary Schools building has the capacity for the proposed joint number of children and any future expansion in school roll.
The educational benefits highlight further improvements and strengthened practice. The proposal for Early Years will benefit all children in both schools.
In terms of the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010, the Education Authority is required to publish details of, and consult on any proposal to establish a new school; make changes to the provision of Gaelic medium education; close a school or nursery; and on any proposal to establish, terminate or otherwise alter the catchment area of a school.
The timeline and the consultation document detail all aspects of the statutory process that must be completed by North Lanarkshire. Education Scotland has been informed and will be involved.
The education estate is continually reviewed. There is always the option to keep the provision as is.
A video is being made of both schools and this will be available at the public consultations and within the schools for parents to see the facilities.
The film is being created by Education and this will show the facilities and learning environments in both schools, as visits to the establishments could not be accommodated as part of the consultation.
They will be uploaded to the council website after the public information sessions. These will also be available in both schools.
Stakeholders not specifically listed can use the ‘other’ option to register their views.
The proposal paper has been checked in terms of all dates and planning. This will be reviewed throughout the process to ensure all statutory requirements are met.
The educational benefits have detailed the aims of the consultation to add benefit to both schools through the proposal.
The Gaelic Language (Scotland) Act 2005 was passed by the Scottish Parliament in 2005 to give Gaelic greater protection and prominence as an official language of Scotland. The Act established Bòrd na Gàidhlig, which advises Ministers on matters relating to Gaelic language, culture and education. As part of the Act, certain public bodies are also required to develop plans that outline how they will use the Gaelic language.
The Education (Scotland) Act 2016 contains provisions on Gaelic Education. The act places a duty on education authorities to promote and support Gaelic Medium Education (GME) and Gaelic Learner Education (GLE) Bòrd na Gàidhlig has produced Statutory Guidance on Gaelic Education. This document provides information about the assessment process for Gaelic Medium Primary Education. Additionally, the Guidance provides an overview of the current educational context for Gaelic language in Scotland. The Guidance can be found on Bòrd na Gàidhlig's website.
North Lanarkshire, has, as has every authority, a requirement to provide Gaelic Learning and Gaelic medium education. This does not require to be as a stand-alone establishment.
Gaelic Medium Education is delivered in Condorrat PS Nursery 3-5 provision, and this move will allow pupils to continue their Gaelic Medium Education through Primary and Secondary school. The initial aim, as advised by Education Scotland, is to focus on learning Gaelic until pupils are fluent to use it in all areas of learning. The whole curriculum is taught in the Gaelic language. Gaelic language Education is delivered wider across North Lanarkshire as part of the 1+2 strategy.
Timescales and plans will be developed if the proposal is approved, and it the service is not pre-empting this decision as it is important that the consultation process focuses on the proposal to relocate the Condorrat GME PS pupils to the current Baird Memorial Primary School and the reconfiguration of the West Cumbernauld Area early learning and childcare and primary school education.
The proposal is to develop a GME primary and early learning and childcare provision within the Baird Memorial PS and Nursery current site. Wider 3-18 development would need to be in line with Town Hub planning and budgets.
Emails received are responded to by senior officers within the council through the Frequently Asked Questions document. This allows stakeholders to see all queries and responses. Further information can be obtained by attending the public information sessions at Baird Memorial PS on Monday 27 November from 6.00pm to 8.00pm and at Condorrat PS on Thursday 30 November from 6.00pm to 8.00pm. Registration to attend is currently open.
The petition will be collated as part of the responses to the consultation. All feedback will be taken into account when making the final recommendation.
The proposal document is highlighting that the status-quo was not selected as a proposal to be consulted on. However, it is important for stakeholders to know that if during and/or after the consultation there is overwhelming opposition to the proposal, the service would listen to stakeholders and re-evaluate their position, including all options.
Education Scotland attend information sessions and will be provided with all correspondence in relation to the consultation. In addition, they independently visit the school and meet with Head Teachers, staff and parent council chairs. They provide a report on their findings that is included as part of the Final Outcome Report. This is published prior to being presented to the Education, Children & Families Committee.
As part of the consultation and detailed in the proposal, Education Scotland has a separate consultation into the proposal . They will also write a report to North Lanarkshire on its findings. Following the publication of the total report in March, there will be an opportunity for further feedback.
This is a statutory consultation and as such it will be followed through to reporting and reports from Education Scotland.
The officer confirmed that they had been involved in leading eight previous consultations with overwhelming support and all establishments moved into High Quality Facilities with increased capacity.
There could not be communication until approval was given at Committee to consult. That led into the statutory processes.
Communications went to all parents from both the schools. This was done as closely in time as possible. No one establishment was notified prior to another.
All stakeholders (and more) listed within the statutory guidance (see point 5.3 "Relevant consultees" of Schedule 2 of the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010: guidance) have been notified of the proposal.
Schedule 2 to the 2010 Act identifies a core set of relevant consultees who should be consulted in connection with every type of proposal. These are:
The Schedule also specifies other relevant consultees in relation to specific categories of proposal - for instance the Community Council is included where the impact is likely to affect the wider community. Additionally, paragraph 11 to the Schedule specifies that Bòrd na Gàidhlig is to be consulted when a proposal affects the provision of Gaelic medium education ( GME) such as where a GME class is to be established or discontinued or a GME school’s catchment is to be changed. Paragraph 12 to the Schedule makes clear that where a change is being proposed which affects a denominational school, the relevant church or denominational body must be consulted.
All impact assessments have been completed as part of the statutory consultation process. These are on the website for the consultation.
Registration and placing requests will be managed by the schools and Contracts and Provision team through current processes.
The timescale for the implementation of the proposal is subject to potential extension to accommodate any ministerial call in. This is detailed in sections 11.3 and 11.4 for the Statutory Consultation Proposal.
Condorrat Primary School will keep its identity and the Baird Memorial PS pupils will become part of that community. It is not within the current timeframe however, it may be at a future date the Head Teacher, in consultation with parents/carers, staff and pupils will propose a uniform redesign.
Parents/carers who are experiencing hardship in providing uniforms for their children can contact the Revenue & Benefit section within the council at supportteam@northlan.gov.uk.
All placing requests will be managed within the current legal timescales. The timeline in the proposal is indicative, which is reviewed throughout the phasing of the consultation.
Yes it does allow for placing requests. This is a separate part of legislation and needs to be planned for by education.
The council has procedures in place for processing Placing Requests and each application would be dealt with its own merits. Gaelic medium education is not treated as a placing request. This is a parental choice to learn both languages. Children attending GME would therefore be expected to learn Gaelic Education.
Validated self-evaluation visits (VSE) are an integral part of the service’s improvement process. They provide an additional layer of support and challenge to facilitate continuous improvement. A statutory consultation sits outwith this. All pupils will be consulted as part of the statutory consultation.
This is the consultation with all stakeholders, including children, on the proposals. Education Staff, not linked to the statutory consultation will work with the staff in each of the affected schools to gain the views of pupils. Pupil views will be captured in line with how both schools currently consult with children in school.
Should the proposal be recommended and approved, the service would work with both schools to ensure children’s needs are respected and voices heard on their school identity. The consultation is only at the proposal stage and no decision has yet been made.
ASN children would be allocated to settings closer to home, in one of the ASN Family Learning Centres established across the council. Each of these setting has additional capacity.
As stated in the wellbeing assessment and the consultation document the nursery hours would give greater choice and flexibility to families by moving to a 9am-3pm term time model.
The current nursery children will remain at Baird ASN Nursery until they transition to their P1 placement. In the future, nursery children with ASN will be placed at their local Family Learning Centre that can meet their needs.
The Early Learning and Childcare team have confirmed that there is adequate capacity within the Family Learning Centre estate to accommodate the children who would previously have been placed at Baird Memorial PS Nursery.
The transition of the existing ASN nursery to Family Learning Centres included in the proposal can be accommodated with the introduction of a Gaelic Nursery Class.
The planned educational benefits to both establishments have been detailed in the Statutory Consultation Proposal. These are detailed in section 3 of the paper.
There is greater scope to enhance the facilities to provide learning experiences within the Condorrat PS building as this has the greater capacity to meet roll expansion.
Condorrat Primary has capacity for 342 children. This is factored into their outdoor spaces as well as learning environments.
All schools promote and respect children’s right to play within their learning environments. This is planned within outdoor learning and the broad curriculum.
Enhancement of after school clubs and activities will be planned by the Headteacher, with the support of the service. Planning would include the whole staff team and partners such as active schools to provide a wide and varied offer.
The educational benefit is that planning and consistency in learning would be enhanced through working as a joint team. Robust tracking and monitoring of learning across the one staff team would further develop progression and planning for learning. Staff would be empowered to collaborate and share practice.
The proposed educational benefits have been listed within the statutory consultation. All stakeholders would be included in the further development of these should the proposal proceed.
Condorrat PS & Nursery delivers high quality learning experiences within its current building and the educational benefits set out how this could be enhanced through the proposal.
Improved high-quality facilities for learning will be designated in such a way as to allow a range of teaching styles and approaches, including active learning, interdisciplinary learning, and outdoor learning.
The North Lanarkshire Website has accessibility tools to translate pages. Gaelic is one of these languages.
The proposal is for full reconfiguration of the learning and teaching in the West area of Cumbernauld. This proposes changes to all sectors of early years, primary and GME. The focus is not on one particular aspect.
Costings for these are from separate budgets and cannot be used for a different purpose.
No this would not be against inclusion as these children and young people would be immersed and included in Gaelic learning. There are many standalone Gaelic schools in Scotland.
Planning for all uses of the current buildings will be part of the Statutory Consultation. This will be included in the final report.
You are correct; this is what we refer to when we stated that the current use of facilities will not change. We have included TJ’s Out of School Care and POMP provision in the consultation communications.
All stakeholders within the local learning community have been advised of the proposal, this includes local councillors, community councils, MSPs and MPs, as well as any other community or parish representatives.
Strengthened leadership across the establishments as stated in the educational outcomes, would enable robust planning of the community facilities.
Updates in relation to the Town and Community Hub Programme, to deliver the ambitions within The Plan for North Lanarkshire, as part of “the Place the Vision” are provided to Policy and Strategy Committee. In the committee update of September 2021, the council listed the schools that were classed as the highest priority, based on the prioritisation matrix agreed to assess project prioritisation for the hub programme. You can view this update via the council’s committee system.
The schools identified as ‘highest priority’ are outlined within page 37 of this document. The council is prioritising projects which appear on this list. As Condorrat Primary School is not on this list, it is not a project that is being prioritised at this time, though “the Place the Vision” plan.
Yes asbestos containing materials are contained within the building. All North Lanarkshire buildings which contain asbestos have registers and records which are maintained.
The roof at is corrugated asbestos cement, containing chrysotile (white) asbestos.
This is a true reflection of the conditions survey undertaken in 2023. All concerns made through the consultation will be taken into account in the reporting process and in the final recommendation which goes to Education and Families Committee in May 2024. These points will be taken into account.
This is a true reflection of the conditions survey undertaken in 2023. North Lanarkshire Council have an ongoing maintenance and inspection programme for all schools and premisses which ensures that all defects and safety concerns are addressed as quickly as possible.
Any potential refurbishments would be conducted through consultation with the Head Teacher and staff to ensure minimum disruption to pupils. Where possible works are conducted outside of school hours.
An updated assessment of pupil walking routes in line with existing road safety criteria will be undertaken. It is council policy to support Active Travel.
Reduction of the carbon footprint is continuously looked at across the whole estate and the more efficient use of spaces and resources to support learning e.g. digital learning, sourcing of materials, etc. The council remains committed to Active Travel and the reduction of emissions.
There will be officers on site who will be available to listen and respond to stakeholder comments and enquiries. All comments will be noted as part of the wider consultation.
Baird Memorial PS hall can accommodate 200 people and Condorrat PS hall can accommodate 340 people.
As the sessions are one to one, and we hope that many of the questions have been answered through the FAQs, that there will be adequate time for stakeholders to be heard.
No, there will be information displayed on boards and there will be senior council officers in attendance to listen and respond to stakeholder comments and enquiries.
We hope to hear stakeholders’ views on the proposal. We will listen and ensure that we have a record of stakeholders’ comments.
The children will be asked similar questions to those in the consultation and their responses will be recorded and be part of the consultation report.
This will take place in the same week as the wider consultation events
Children from both schools will be included in the consultation
This will be facilitated in their school environment with teaching trained staff who are not part of the consultation process.
Staff leading the consultation groups will be teaching staff who can support all children to have a voice in the process.
Once the consultation period closes on 18 December 2023, all comments and feedback will be sent to Education Scotland to inform their report. Once we receive this report from Education Scotland, the service will produce a Final Outcome Report that provides the details and outcome of the consultation, this will include the survey.
It is optional to complete the email address. Stakeholders can also write in to:
Education, Children & Families Service
West Area of Cumbernauld Reconfiguration Consultation
Windmillhill Street
Motherwell
ML1 1AB
Alternatively, views will be gathered at the public information sessions at Baird Memorial PS on Monday 27 November between 6pm and 8pm and at Condorrat PS on Thursday 30 November between 6pm and 8pm. Registration to attend is currently open.
This will be offered to both parent councils prior to the closure of the consultation on 18th December
There will be a range of officers on site who will be available to listen and respond to stakeholder comments and enquiries. All comments will be noted as part of the wider consultation.
There will be a video of each school which will be played for people to see. This will also be made available in both schools following the event.
The public consultation events will be on a one to one basis with officers from Education, Children and Families.
Staffing would be determined in line with the revised F20 Management Circular - Agreed Procedures for the Management structure for Primary, Secondary, ASN and Multi-Establishment Schools, Implementation of School Closures/Amalgamations/Relocations: Staffing Policy for Teaching Staff and Workforce Change Policy.
Staffing would be determined in line with the revised F20 Management Circular - Agreed Procedures for the Management structure for Primary, Secondary, ASN and Multi-Establishment Schools, Implementation of School Closures/Amalgamations/Relocations : Staffing Policy for Teaching Staff and Workforce Change Policy.
This would be dependent on the needs of the establishment(s) and the authority at the time of implementation.
If the proposal is approved our workforce staffing plans would work towards implementation of full staffing FTE entitlement effective from the opening date of the new establishments.
If applicable, the agreed Recruitment Panel for Teaching posts will be implemented, see below for panels that include Parent Councils Members:
Structures of the school leadership team would be determined in line with the revised F20 Management Circular - Agreed Procedures for the Management structure for Primary, Secondary, ASN and Multi-Establishment Schools
Structures of the school leadership team would be determined in line with the revised F20 Management Circular - Agreed Procedures for the Management structure for Primary, Secondary, ASN and Multi-Establishment Schools
Potentially, this will be dependent on the outcome of the statutory consultation.
The service monitors all establishments and Condorrat Primary is part of scheduled assessment and maintenance.
The service can confirm that assessments across all establishments are conducted on a planned schedule and Condorrat Primary is part of this programme.
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